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The Real World Brooklyn Cast Gets Transgendered

Posted on Sep 21, 2008 by Michael Martin in Brooklyn | 65 Comments

Courtesy of Vevmo
Courtesy of Vevmo

The cast of The Real World Brooklyn looks to differentiate itself from the previous twenty seasons on MTV by having the first transgender cast member.

The cast’s head shot compilation was posted on Vevmo and combined with my sources indicate the naming of the cast is as follows – starting clockwise from the top left.

  • Kate
  • Sarah
  • Baya Voce
  • Devyn Simone
  • Chet Cannon
  • JD Ordonez
  • Ryan Conklin
  • Scott Herman

This would be the first time a transgender cast member would be on The Real World and hints to why for the first time filming starts with eight instead of the usual seven cast members.

The reason I am told there are eight cast members to start with is because Kate may be leaving for the transgender surgery in Taiwan during filming and then return post-op – similar to another MTV reality series True Life.

Other interesting highlights of this cast include:

  • Devyn was the 2005 Miss American Teen National Pageant winner and is looking to be a singer.
  • JD is a dolphin trainer from Miami and had reportedly dated CNN news anchor Anderson Cooper according to the Gawker.
  • Chet is both a virgin and a mormon so the rest of the cast have taken it upon themselves to help him lose his virginity when they go out, which is generally in Manhattan since the Red Hook area has given the cold shoulder to the cast.


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65 Comments »

Comment by Kara Harkins
2008-09-22 03:44:58

One suggestion: why list her name in quotes? If you are using the logic that it is not her birth name, why not do the same for anyone in the cast who uses a nickname or a short version of their name?

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Comment by Amber Thompson
2008-09-22 05:14:49

Her name is Kate, not “Kate”. This is derogatory and bigoted.

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Comment by Michael Martin
2008-09-22 09:41:01

The logic on the quotes for Kate is that I believe he won’t officially be Kate until after the surgey.

Post-surgery the quotes would be removed.

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Comment by Kara Harkins
2008-09-22 09:53:18

The name SHE uses is the name she uses. It has nothing at all to do with surgery.

Unless you list your name as “Mike” when you use a short version of your own name (or correct people if someone else does it) you have no basis for arguing for quotes when someone uses a name they were not given at birth.

Actually, that brings up a point. If she has legally changed her name (the article does not say if she has or has not) then that is her name. In either case, if Kate is the name she uses, that should be the name listed, not “Kate”.

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Comment by Michael Martin
2008-09-22 09:56:21

Point taken.

I will remedy within the post.

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Comment by Kara Harkins
2008-09-22 10:16:58

Thanks for fixing it. :)

I may not be in the target demo but hopefully her experience on the show will be a good one.

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Comment by beezy
2008-09-24 06:01:33

WHOAA!!!! this season is gonna be crazy as it WANNA be!!! A transgender cast mate? I am wayyy trippin!! But this might be A interesting season? (SEE? THATS WHAT IM AM TALKING ABOUT BMP, SOMETHING FRESH & NEW ON THE REAL WORLD AND NOT THE SAME CAST they cast “EVERY SEASON” IM ACTUALLY GLAD BMP DECIDED TO PUT KATE ON THERE, BECAUSE THIS IS WHATS GOING ON IN TODAYS WORLD, KUDOS TO BMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh BTW, yall think when the season premiers how would the opening intro be like? since they have 8 roomates instead of the normal 7? what would the 8th roomie say at the end of: and start getting real? I don’t? i guess I’ll have to wait and watch the season,

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Comment by iknowher
2008-09-24 17:20:37

her name was chris, now it’s kate. she’s a friend of a friend. i’ve met her a few times.

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Comment by beezy
2008-09-25 13:02:10

(Replying To: iknowher,)

So you are saying he was a DUDE after the OP was done and now dude is a SHE now?

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Comment by mannersarebest
2008-10-09 01:37:46

[replying to iknowher]

It is considered rude and in poor taste to out a transperson’s birthname.

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Comment by tj
2008-10-10 14:06:45

Ryan was identified as Ryan Conklin.

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Comment by Jason
2008-10-12 17:12:17

JD Ordonez is a hooker, was a dancer in florida and an escort.

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Comment by ignoranceshouldnotequalbliss
2008-10-16 10:27:13

Newsflash: Surgery was in June or July, and the legal name change happened over a year ago.

It is completely rude to out any transgender’s birth name.

Katelynn is Katelynn, and that’s it.

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Comment by Michael
2008-10-16 13:05:18

Actually JD worked his way through college while bartending at a bar and animal training full time, but he was never a stripper or an escort. Your just jealous that you accomplishments will never amount to JD’s success.
Next time do your research!

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Comment by Nicole
2008-10-21 16:14:31

SCOTT HERMAN YOURE SOOO HOTT <3

HAHAH

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Comment by Crystal
2008-10-31 11:24:59

This is getting stranger by the season..I fell off with Real World about 3 years ago..its boring now..

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Comment by Joanny
2008-11-07 10:17:43

Hey Mike,

MTV has finally posted a trailer for the new season (set to air in January). Just giving you a heads up!

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Comment by Noreen
2008-11-10 18:57:44

You go Kate! I’m transgendered too. My legal name is Noreen. And its time people got to know us and understand us. We are not freaks or anything bad. We are girls. Don’t you think gender is between the ears and sex between the legs? And Kate was lucky enough to get them to match. Please show her respect! And you would be amazed if you knew how many transgenedered girls you see everyday and never know it. Get to know us, we’re very nice!
Love & Hugs,
Noreen

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Comment by Katie C.
2008-11-19 14:38:31

I personally met Kate in Thailand where she had her surgery. I saw first hand the results and can tell you with absolute certainty she is all girl. Ohh her surgery was if I recall July 1. I visited her in the hospital the day after her surgery when she with her great sense of humor said she felt like some sort of Japaneese aname tenticle character due to the fact she had tubes comming out of her in several places.

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Comment by ariana
2008-12-10 12:56:11

omg quotes around kate!
bullshit it was a he.
I don’t dress up like a guy and then tell everyone i’m a guy.
if it still had testicles it was still a he, ugh.

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Comment by Becca
2008-12-12 12:48:52

Referring to another human being as “it” is disgusting and obnoxious. It also shows how little respect you have for other people. I suggest that you not speak on a subject unless you have first hand experience with that subject. My ex happens to be trans, and I have trans friends, and it makes me want to pull my hair out when I read ignorant, hateful comments like this one. We are all human, and all deserve to be treated with respect, so please, if you can’t do that, keep your comments to yourself.

And good for Real World for having someone trans on the cast. It’s about time.

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Comment by darius
2008-12-14 14:40:00

go kate im glad that you can represent for the trans community, i hope she has a good experience in the house, and all of ignorant people can shut the hell up because you have no idea what trans people got through on daily basis.

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Comment by jessica
2008-12-19 02:42:34

I’m confused, so Kate was born a boy and changed to a girl … a lot of people sound like they r ignorant but we don’t undestand … I’m a girl, I never has surguty to become a girl…. that’s not regular to go under the knife… u weren’t born that way

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Comment by bianxxx
2008-12-22 21:53:45

people are startng to become more open minded with the whole transexual thing and im glad that there going to have kate on there….i dont know why there calling her by her boy name that is so fucken rude and stupid
kate was born a male,but now obviously lives her life as a female now..how fucken stupid do you dumb fucks have to be to understand that,its the 2009’s already nothing should shock peple now a days geez!,lmfao

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Comment by joe
2008-12-24 06:38:33

oh goodness more queers. i’ll not be watching this. more sickness.

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Nikki Reply:

@joe, haven’t seen this show but if it is what I hear from everyone with the different diversities and from reading on this show is going to be awesome.

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kate Reply:

@joe,

your ignorant why don”t you just let them be what they want to be why do you care why do most people think that your gay or transgender there horny animals you don’t know them there not hot for you why don’t you just let them be what they want to be. Maybe you can take a step back and realize that it’s not good to hate for you or for them . i think people like you hate cause of fear instead of being a statistic maybe you can just accept it and let it go. I think people have the right to be what they want to be and love who they want to love. It’s not hurting you is it??????

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Comment by Nikki
2009-01-14 11:42:20

@joe, haven’t seen this show but if it is what I hear from everyone with the different diversities and from reading on this show is going to be awesome.

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Comment by kate
2009-01-18 18:39:05

@joe,

your ignorant why don”t you just let them be what they want to be why do you care why do most people think that your gay or transgender there horny animals you don’t know them there not hot for you why don’t you just let them be what they want to be. Maybe you can take a step back and realize that it’s not good to hate for you or for them . i think people like you hate cause of fear instead of being a statistic maybe you can just accept it and let it go. I think people have the right to be what they want to be and love who they want to love. It’s not hurting you is it??????

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Comment by joe
2008-12-24 06:39:15

and yes, the transfreak should be call “IT”

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Comment by Marlene
2008-12-28 21:53:35

Maybe *you’re* the freak, Joe! Ever think of that?

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Comment by Katie C.
2009-01-02 18:14:56

God I love how some of the people would refer to Kate as it or he. Now I myself as I said met her in Thailand and I myself had my surgery a week before her. If you met me on the street you would not think of me as a boy. Before or after surgery. Now I realize that these concepts are a bit difficult for a lof of people to grasp but then I have to remind myself that there are still a lot of people that are dating their sisters, farm animals and molesting children and on Sunday go to church to repent thier sins. Human nature is a wonderful thing. Oh and wise people like Joe you can call me It all day long if you wish but then I cannot expect much from you now can I?

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Comment by Katelynn Fan
2009-01-03 22:31:38

I think Kate is posting on this topic under the name Katie C.

*kisses* to Katelynn. I will be watching only because of you. <3

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Comment by Katie C.
2009-01-04 19:54:25

Actually I am not Kate from the show. We just happen to share the same name, same doctor, and about the same surgery dates. Mine was June 20, 2008, and hers was I think July 1, 2008 or around that date.

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Comment by Marlene
2009-01-05 04:40:45

And did you notice that Joe left his hateful comments on Christmas Eve? How wonderfully “Christian” of him!

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Comment by Jessie
2009-01-06 01:30:19

Its surprising to see that people can still be so ignorant. I am not Trans myself but have several Trans friends and its very offensive for them to be called by their birth name or birth sex. Her name is Kate and she is a she not a it or he. If you have anything against people being REAL then don’t watch this season of the REAL WORLD! I know I will be watching it n tellin all my friends to watch it. Peace & Love to all even the dumb ones.

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Comment by Kelly
2009-01-06 19:19:58

Very excited to see a transgender person on the show. People need to understand–many, like the person posting as “joe,” are ignorant. Hopefully this season will open their minds. For the record: gender is a spectrum. Not two groups of either male or female. We each fall at different points on the spectrum and we only place ourselves in the categories “male” or “female” because that is all we are offered. Why bother categorizing ourselves? Why answer the question are you “male” or “female”? Leave it blank next time and make the point that gender is complicated and we absolutely shouldn’t categorize others.

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Comment by NiNa
2009-01-07 22:43:01

i totally love the after show and kate kicked ass. the two igornant guys on the show need to travel. they try to make it seem like the don’t care if kate is trans but their throwing hint like something wrong with her, like she’s the alien, or the elephant in the room. mind you they don’t want ppl to put a layable them or critic them but their doing it. if she’s gender she’ll come out when she ready and they’re so curious they should just ask. ryan is the biggest ass. you haven’t been exposed to enough things. you need to make real friends. kate is not an it your a fucking ass. chet needs to get laid.

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Comment by Michael Martin
2009-01-09 13:37:15

I have removed any reference to Kate’s birth name due to Katelynn’s direct request to me.

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Comment by Kara Harkins
2009-01-09 13:54:14

Watched the premier yesterday (I had DVR’ed it). I have not watched HBO since the early 80s but Kate is interesting enough to make me follow it this time.

I also was amused that the first housemate she met was someone from my home state (NH).

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Comment by davee
2009-01-09 22:52:26

Gentlemen, you can’t change you genes no matter what you have cut off or what drugs and hormones you take.

Grow up and accept yourselves for what you are. Men.

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Comment by chris(guy)
2009-01-10 00:15:31

I just wanted to say that I myself am very ignorant about transgender people, I have never met or talked to one before so I am basically in the dark about the topic.I would normally consider myself to be open minded but I can’t shake the feeling of disgust and confusing when I think about it. After watching the first episode of this season I do feel compasion towards Kate and she has opened my eyes, alittle anyway. I know people are going to get mad and yell at me but I still can’t totally wrap my mind around the idea and I’m not that comfortable with it. I do feel bad about it though.Kate being on this show is a huge step for people to start to understand and exsecpt transgender people, so thats a plus.

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Comment by chris(guy)
2009-01-10 00:25:53

Oh sorry I just wanted to add, for everyone yelling at the people who arent comfortable with transgender people need to grow up too. I’m just trying to say that they are intitled to their opinion, everyone has strong feelings on the matter and I don’t think its fair for you try and dismiss them. I will agree that some of the comments could be hurtful to transgender people and I would suggest they try and express what they mean differently but this is a extreamly sensative topic and I believe that the only way they will ever be exsecpted is if we(the world) talk about it and are alot more vocal about it, because honestly before watching this first episode I thought that cross dressing and being transexual was just some kind of extream festish or something. I know thats not acurite now but I’m just saying that most people myself included don’t understand that kind of life style and you can’t just exspect everyone too. Thats all I have to say.. for now

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Comment by mannersarebest
2009-01-10 00:45:45

chris(guy) and to anyone else with his mindset:

Are you serious? You think that people should be more lenient to others who are hateful and ignorant? One can be ignorant, and seek to educated themselves and understand and not be hateful. They don’t have to go hand in hand. Spewing hate is only a sign of a severe lacking in the brain department, thank you very much. I don’t need to respect those who won’t respect me, I’ll continue on in my life and just let them froth at the mouth with their blind hate and out-dated mindset. BOOHOO IT CONFUSES ME. Well it confuses ME why you can’t respect another human being.

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Comment by chris
2009-01-10 01:10:06

No you deffinetly don’t have to respect anybody you dont’t want too, but I think in the end you should just let them act out because I believe that we all start out the same and what we believe and how we feel all depends on how we grow up and what we are exposed too. I think that people who say all those things are just really confused and immature and I feel bad for them, but if you claim to be so open minded then you should also try and see it from their points of view. I don’t think its their fault that they are so ignorant and confused about transgender people or any controversial topic, I mean this is a relativley new one and its a very akward for most people. The guy Joe is probaly a teenager who still has growing up to do, or someone who has never been around anyone who is transgender or gay, that isn’t his fault. I know this sounds bad and I don’t want anyone to think I’m siding with them because im not, I’m bisexual. Its just human nature to fear what we don’t understand, luckily there are people out who are mature enough and can open thier minds to something they don’t understand. But I will agree that people can take things to far, use the holocaust or the kkk as examples of that and it sucks it really does but thats the world we live in and its not going to change anytime soon. So to “mannersarebest” I think we feel the same way about ignorant people like Joe, but we just have different ideas on how to deal with them. I think that if you let them say what they want as long as they aren’t physically hurting anyone then let them do it, because in the end I think more people will see how stupid they look and thats exactly how they will feel.

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Comment by mannersarebest
2009-01-10 02:36:51

@ Chris, first, thank you for a thought out and intelligent response. You’re a more understanding human being than I.

I understand what you mean, actually. Unfortunately I’ve learned taking the more passive route has only ended in me feeling silenced and ashamed of the fact that I never stood up for myself. What a lot of the people are saying here is the difference between hate speech, and free speech. While yeah, even the hate-speechers have their right to have their go, it’s an unfortunate circumstance that the more people see that mindset the more they feel comfortable agreeing with it.

I can’t follow my own beliefs and feel that people should be silenced, because that’s just not right. Free speech covers everything, even when you don’t like what it has to say. Yet it can be quite a challenge to see what some people say. They don’t think, and they probably never have needed to in their lives. They simply open their maws and let filth spill forth.

We’re at a point in time where trans-issues are only gaining more media attention. It’s always been around, it’s just not so talked about. The more word it gains the more it scares the ignorant, weak, and uneducated. However I do feel that simply leaving it as “as long as they don’t hurt anyone physically.” is not quite right. It doesn’t take much for words to become fists, especially in our increasingly frustrating and stressful society.

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Comment by Marlene
2009-01-10 04:23:01

A little edumication for Davee: genes don’t determine gender!

Ever hear of Kleinfelter’s Syndrome? Turner’s Syndrome? Anrogen Insensitivity Syndrome?

What gender is a person with an extra ‘X’ or an extra ‘Y’? What about ‘XO’? Are they male or female, sweetie?

Maybe you need to read up on things like the David Reimer case before you go showing your ignorance to the world for all to see.

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Comment by Katie C.
2009-01-12 20:21:19

Well it is interesting how some people view the topic one way and others view it another way. I guess in the big picture I really could care less. As with Katlin I am transsexual and I love a normal life. I do not have a lifestyle that is any different than what is typical. I work, go jogging, read books, spend time at the beach, have friends that are non trans. I do not discuss the topic with them since it is pointless as the discussions have shown. In actuality I have no desire but to live in the normal world like anyone else. Do I have an agenda? Nope. Is transsexualism contagious? Nope and I dont recall any of us recruting. Am I misleading the public in some way? Nope, I am who I am just the average girl who by chance had to make a few corrections to my body but in the end I am in the same boat as any other woman. Am I a freak? Well considering I live a life no different than any other girl it seems that to say I am a freak would embody all women as to being freaks.
Perhaps in a better light the fact of the matter is that anyone who is actively discriminating against people or spreading ill will is only hurting themselves since if we as a society were to constantly push certain groups of people away these people tend to become burdens upon the tax payers. On the other hand if we treat all people with respect then as a society we increase the probability of all people contribution to society in a positive way.

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Comment by kate
2009-01-18 18:24:43

I’m very excited that there is a transgender on the real world i think it’s extremely important that we recognize them as people and the more awareness we have out there of the transgender and gay people then maybe we can prevent one more hate crime I really think more people need to stop and just learn to accept people for who they are instead of beat or kill or mock them. Thank you mtv for creating awareness of transgender people i really think your helping others to be aware and respect other sexuality’s . kate

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Comment by kate
2009-01-18 18:29:28

Look up the story about GWen Araujo it is heartbreaking and i’m determined to try to help prevention of hate crimes it appalled me on what happened to her and it’s unacceptable i hope this won’t happen again. I really believe if we just accept transgender people accept how they live create more awareness maybe we won’t have people doing hate crimes cause all it is is fear. kate

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Comment by Mike
2009-02-01 20:00:26

Why even bother having a comment page if it is all filtered? Everything on here is just pro-Kate. I have to say that Kate is a faggot who tricks dudes into kissing him by cutting off his cock n balls and getting tits.

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Marlene Reply:

@Mike, It’s too bad you haven’t learned anything.

Kate is a *female* and she’s *straight*! No gay man would *ever* go through what we have to go through when making the transition.

Hopefully maybe seeing more episodes of the show will prove to you she’s not gay… and the guys who’re attracted to her aren’t gay, either.

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Comment by Marlene
2009-02-01 21:14:49

@Mike, It’s too bad you haven’t learned anything.

Kate is a *female* and she’s *straight*! No gay man would *ever* go through what we have to go through when making the transition.

Hopefully maybe seeing more episodes of the show will prove to you she’s not gay… and the guys who’re attracted to her aren’t gay, either.

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Comment by g virus
2009-02-06 18:14:35

dude i know kate is a trans but i think shes fukin hot!!!!!

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Mike Reply:

listen, u sick fuck, u need ur eyes checked.. that thing has a dick prolly bigger than urs.. soo get a life

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Marlene Reply:

@Mike, What’s the matter, little boy…. jealous?

Furthermore, she had surgery before being chosen for the cast so it’s not there any more.

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Comment by Mike
2009-02-10 09:11:04

listen, u sick fuck, u need ur eyes checked.. that thing has a dick prolly bigger than urs.. soo get a life

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Comment by Marlene
2009-02-11 07:54:24

@Mike, What’s the matter, little boy…. jealous?

Furthermore, she had surgery before being chosen for the cast so it’s not there any more.

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Comment by Tracy
2009-02-15 07:26:27

Katelynn, if you want to look more femanine, please wash your hair more regularly. It looks greasey and shaggy. You need a good hair cut and some highlights. And fix those male eybrows!!!. If you look at a picture of all you girls together, your greasey unmanicured hair sets you apart. Come on Katelynn, it’s so basic. Even the men look clean. You look dirty.Sorry but it’s true. Fixable but true.

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Comment by SugarSpunDreams
2009-02-15 23:38:13

I think that – one day- our children will look at the gay/trans-gender/bi discrimination just as we look at segregation and women’s lib.

WHY is the whole “All men are created equal” idea sooo hard to grasp?!
Is it the ‘Bible’ thing?!
I’m SOUTHERN BAPTIST, but still see that the ‘Bible’ is a book that has been handed down by PEOPLE and-therefore-has been tainted, omitted from, and re-worked!
AND- We should NEVER make the reasons for making something illegal religious in their formation! This country may have been founded by Christian outcasts, but the REASON they created it was not to make an exclusive Christian state-It was to allow freedom from ANY ideas being forced on people!
Seriously! We are still sooooo far off base!
WHEN is LOVE EVER Wrong?!

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Comment by Scared male
2009-02-28 11:09:35

As a regular guy born a guy who likes girls born girls, I am afraid that I may meet a girl who wasn’t born a girl or isn’t a girl and I may think that he/she is a girl. I am not hating on anybody here. I am not sure what I believe in exactly. I am simply afraid that this comes true in my life. Do all transgendered people tell the person that they will or are romanticly involved with, that they are transgendered? I don’t know if making it more mainstream will solve the problem. But it may.

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Comment by Kara Harkins
2009-02-28 11:21:16

Why should it make a difference how someone was born? If you are attracted to them now, you are attracted to them now. When someone tells a romantic partner is highly personal and varies … some when they meet, others before things get to the state where they are intimate, some after, even a few that never do (although that last is a highly dangerous route).

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Comment by Scared male
2009-02-28 11:39:52

It matters because I hope to have children one day. And for other reasons.

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Marlene Reply:

SM – So? You can still have kids… through artificial insemination, surrogate, or adoption. Infertile, gay and lesbian couples use those techniques all the time.

And are you *sure* the girls you dated were “real” girls? They could’ve been intersexed, meaning they had an extra or missing chromosome, among other things.

The main thing is, dear is that we transsexuals like Katelyn *ARE* real girls! We were just born with a birth defect needing surgical correction.

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Comment by Marlene
2009-02-28 17:26:26

SM – So? You can still have kids… through artificial insemination, surrogate, or adoption. Infertile, gay and lesbian couples use those techniques all the time.

And are you *sure* the girls you dated were “real” girls? They could’ve been intersexed, meaning they had an extra or missing chromosome, among other things.

The main thing is, dear is that we transsexuals like Katelyn *ARE* real girls! We were just born with a birth defect needing surgical correction.

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Comment by a GUY
2009-03-04 22:12:06

Seriously, that trans shit is wrong, 2009 or not. and im not ignorant, i know all about it and guess what/???? i still think it is WRONG. WAKE UP WORLD ITS THE BEGINING OF THE END>>>

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Comment by Leda
2009-03-05 15:55:46

Remember the Pharisees? They made an ostentatious show of being oh-so-purely religious. I hear the old tones of those old posers every time I witness good Christian believers beating up on gender-variant people.

The Christians adding their snarling, hate-filled remarks to this discussion should ask themselves …

What would Jesus have done, standing face-to-face with a person who had been betrayed and condemned by society’s gender stereotypes? You know the answer.

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Comment by T
2009-03-12 19:25:15

Man I think this Real World sucks compared to the past ones. They don’t party or do anything exciting. Just seems like everything is so serious. They need a party person like Will or Joey last season.

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Comment by Kayla
2009-04-05 17:47:26

With all due respect, you are not like every other woman. You do not possess female reproductive organs, you cannot menstruate or have a child. I think people certainly have the right to do whatever they want, including mutilating their bodies, but I have the right to think it is unfortunate and unhealthy. I distinguish between people that are gay, and people that are transgender. I have no problems with people’s sexuality, but I find this physical mutilation to be very disturbing. There is a very easy way to find out most people’s gender: give them a Chromosone test. Of course I am aware that there are rare instances where people have strange chromosonal results. But very few transgendered persons fall into this category.

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