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	<title>Comments on: The Real World Brooklyn Cast Gets Transgendered</title>
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		<title>By: WOMANitarian</title>
		<link>http://www.mm-agency.com/blog/mtv-real-world/real-world-brooklyn-cast-transgender/3350/comment-page-2/#comment-5120</link>
		<dc:creator>WOMANitarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 01:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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sex =biologically-constructed distinction 
vs. 
gender= socially-constructed 
 
These do *not* always coincide with each other [male sex-type=gendered man, female sex-type=gendered woman], although as a society we tend to see these terms as interchangeable.  
Theyre not. 
 
a) Therefore you CANNOT determine a person&#039;s &quot;gender&quot; through a chromosome test 
.... have u ever heard of the famous Olympic gold medalist in the 1980s (a hurdler or runner, i think) who was stripped of her medal bc she has XY chromosomes? she menstruated, looked like a woman, defined herself as a woman, was treated as a woman, had female primary and secondary reproductive organs... but was stripped of her medal due to some error in her gene-structure. she was GENDERED female yet her CHROMOSOME composition deemed her a &quot;male&quot;. she was  a WOMAN, no matter what her invisible genetics said. that&#039;s how she saw herself, thats how she was treated, thats how she saw the world and how it saw her back... gender is a social construct.  
...and this actually happens a lot more frequently that you might think. 
 
b) transgender is NOT a sexuality. You say u distinguish bt transgendered and gay: that is good bc really they have little to do with one another. Some transgendered individuals are homosexual, yes, but Sexual orientation is determined by one&#039;s sexual attraction and/or preference of sexual partner. transgenderism is concerned with who an individual personally considers themself to BE, and manifesting their outsides to match who they ARE on the inside. Transgenderism&#039;s primary concern is NOT who one is sexually attracted to. u can have a transgender who has a sexual orientation of gay, straight or bisexual....  and who are we to determine how those labels are applied? A person wouldnt (generally) go through the trouble of changing their sex bc of their sexual preference .... 
 
c) &quot;You do not possess female reproductive organs, you cannot menstruate or have a child&quot; ...so is a menopausal female who has had her reproductive organs removed still a woman? This is what youre saying here.  According to your definition she&#039;s not a woman so who/what is she, then?  
 
Be careful....People need to be more aware of what theyre saying and the EFFECT their words have.  
 
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<p>sex =biologically-constructed distinction<br />
vs.<br />
gender= socially-constructed </p>
<p>These do *not* always coincide with each other [male sex-type=gendered man, female sex-type=gendered woman], although as a society we tend to see these terms as interchangeable.<br />
Theyre not. </p>
<p>a) Therefore you CANNOT determine a person&#039;s &quot;gender&quot; through a chromosome test<br />
&#8230;. have u ever heard of the famous Olympic gold medalist in the 1980s (a hurdler or runner, i think) who was stripped of her medal bc she has XY chromosomes? she menstruated, looked like a woman, defined herself as a woman, was treated as a woman, had female primary and secondary reproductive organs&#8230; but was stripped of her medal due to some error in her gene-structure. she was GENDERED female yet her CHROMOSOME composition deemed her a &quot;male&quot;. she was  a WOMAN, no matter what her invisible genetics said. that&#039;s how she saw herself, thats how she was treated, thats how she saw the world and how it saw her back&#8230; gender is a social construct.<br />
&#8230;and this actually happens a lot more frequently that you might think. </p>
<p>b) transgender is NOT a sexuality. You say u distinguish bt transgendered and gay: that is good bc really they have little to do with one another. Some transgendered individuals are homosexual, yes, but Sexual orientation is determined by one&#039;s sexual attraction and/or preference of sexual partner. transgenderism is concerned with who an individual personally considers themself to BE, and manifesting their outsides to match who they ARE on the inside. Transgenderism&#039;s primary concern is NOT who one is sexually attracted to. u can have a transgender who has a sexual orientation of gay, straight or bisexual&#8230;.  and who are we to determine how those labels are applied? A person wouldnt (generally) go through the trouble of changing their sex bc of their sexual preference &#8230;. </p>
<p>c) &quot;You do not possess female reproductive organs, you cannot menstruate or have a child&quot; &#8230;so is a menopausal female who has had her reproductive organs removed still a woman? This is what youre saying here.  According to your definition she&#039;s not a woman so who/what is she, then?  </p>
<p>Be careful&#8230;.People need to be more aware of what theyre saying and the EFFECT their words have.</p>
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		<title>By: genderbender</title>
		<link>http://www.mm-agency.com/blog/mtv-real-world/real-world-brooklyn-cast-transgender/3350/comment-page-2/#comment-5119</link>
		<dc:creator>genderbender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 00:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with u 100% as well as commend you for being a proud southern baptist and doing what a TRUE christian ought to do by &quot;loving thy neighbor&quot; (like jesus taught us).... 
but i just want to make a small clarification point:  The early puritans who came to the colonies were actually running from religious persecution in europe and came here to set up a strict PURITAN state. Anyone believed to not uphold puritan values was exiled from the colony-- which usually meant death.  
ironic, isnt it? you&#039;d think that once you were cast out you&#039;d be more accepting of others but apparently this isnt the case.  </description>
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<p>i agree with u 100% as well as commend you for being a proud southern baptist and doing what a TRUE christian ought to do by &quot;loving thy neighbor&quot; (like jesus taught us)&#8230;.<br />
but i just want to make a small clarification point:  The early puritans who came to the colonies were actually running from religious persecution in europe and came here to set up a strict PURITAN state. Anyone believed to not uphold puritan values was exiled from the colony&#8211; which usually meant death.<br />
ironic, isnt it? you&#039;d think that once you were cast out you&#039;d be more accepting of others but apparently this isnt the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Kayla</title>
		<link>http://www.mm-agency.com/blog/mtv-real-world/real-world-brooklyn-cast-transgender/3350/comment-page-2/#comment-4010</link>
		<dc:creator>Kayla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 00:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect, you are not like every other woman.  You do not possess female reproductive organs, you cannot menstruate or have a child. I think people certainly have the right to do whatever they want, including mutilating their bodies, but I have the right to think it is unfortunate and unhealthy.  I distinguish between people that are gay, and people that are transgender. I have no problems with people&#039;s sexuality, but I find this physical mutilation to be very disturbing.  There is a very easy way to find out most people&#039;s gender: give them a Chromosone test. Of course I am aware that there are rare instances where people have strange chromosonal results. But very few transgendered persons fall into this category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, you are not like every other woman.  You do not possess female reproductive organs, you cannot menstruate or have a child. I think people certainly have the right to do whatever they want, including mutilating their bodies, but I have the right to think it is unfortunate and unhealthy.  I distinguish between people that are gay, and people that are transgender. I have no problems with people&#8217;s sexuality, but I find this physical mutilation to be very disturbing.  There is a very easy way to find out most people&#8217;s gender: give them a Chromosone test. Of course I am aware that there are rare instances where people have strange chromosonal results. But very few transgendered persons fall into this category.</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man I think this Real World sucks compared to the past ones. They don&#039;t party or do anything exciting. Just seems like everything is so serious. They need a party person like Will or Joey last season.</description>
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		<title>By: Leda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember the Pharisees? They made an ostentatious show of being oh-so-purely religious. I hear the old tones of those old posers every time I witness good Christian believers beating up on gender-variant people.

The Christians adding their snarling, hate-filled remarks to this discussion should ask themselves ...

What would Jesus have done, standing face-to-face with a person who had been betrayed and condemned by society&#039;s gender stereotypes? You know the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember the Pharisees? They made an ostentatious show of being oh-so-purely religious. I hear the old tones of those old posers every time I witness good Christian believers beating up on gender-variant people.</p>
<p>The Christians adding their snarling, hate-filled remarks to this discussion should ask themselves &#8230;</p>
<p>What would Jesus have done, standing face-to-face with a person who had been betrayed and condemned by society&#8217;s gender stereotypes? You know the answer.</p>
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